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	<title>Comments on: Apple&#8217;s iPhone Evil an Android Killer &#8211; A Maemo Chance?</title>
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	<description>- the musings of Greg Herlein</description>
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		<title>By: The Future of Phones: Unlocked &#171; Chasing the Power Curve</title>
		<link>http://blog.herlein.com/2009/11/apples-iphone-evil-may-give-them-android-killing-edge-maemo-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>The Future of Phones: Unlocked &#171; Chasing the Power Curve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been down on Android for it&#8217;s tendency to fragment the market and I&#8217;ve whined philosophically about how nice it would be if Nokia&#8217;s Maemo could be a unifying force.  But the power of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been down on Android for it&#8217;s tendency to fragment the market and I&#8217;ve whined philosophically about how nice it would be if Nokia&#8217;s Maemo could be a unifying force.  But the power of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Ludd 2.0</title>
		<link>http://blog.herlein.com/2009/11/apples-iphone-evil-may-give-them-android-killing-edge-maemo-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Ludd 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bog, but i hate cell-phones and cell-phone &quot;culture&quot; - where work-a-day mediocretins have to bellow out their prosaic nonsense AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS  while riding public transit. 

whoever invented these public nuisances probably has an especialy saved spot in one of the lower &quot;bolges&quot; of dante&#039;s disneyland inferno - right next to the inventors of the time clock, and double-entry book-keeping.

the only BRIGHT spot in this dark and dreary &quot;brave new world&quot; is perhaps the fact that these little buggers are, even as i hunt for these letters to write this screed, mutating the users&#039; genes.

or at least disrupting their bodies&#039; cellular structure.

but why blame Apple?

this trend of using a particular technological platform as a means of exclusive control over the media is hardly new. remember the BETAMAX/VHS wars a generation ago?

Carpe Emptor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bog, but i hate cell-phones and cell-phone &#8220;culture&#8221; &#8211; where work-a-day mediocretins have to bellow out their prosaic nonsense AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS  while riding public transit. </p>
<p>whoever invented these public nuisances probably has an especialy saved spot in one of the lower &#8220;bolges&#8221; of dante&#8217;s disneyland inferno &#8211; right next to the inventors of the time clock, and double-entry book-keeping.</p>
<p>the only BRIGHT spot in this dark and dreary &#8220;brave new world&#8221; is perhaps the fact that these little buggers are, even as i hunt for these letters to write this screed, mutating the users&#8217; genes.</p>
<p>or at least disrupting their bodies&#8217; cellular structure.</p>
<p>but why blame Apple?</p>
<p>this trend of using a particular technological platform as a means of exclusive control over the media is hardly new. remember the BETAMAX/VHS wars a generation ago?</p>
<p>Carpe Emptor!</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.herlein.com/2009/11/apples-iphone-evil-may-give-them-android-killing-edge-maemo-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The software may come through Apple but it&#039;s not made by Apple, therefore there is not a decrease in competition....I mean just look at all those dumb Fart Apps, all from different developers.  There are multiples of almost each type of App in the App Store, so I don&#039;t see lack  of diversity or competition as a problem.

Also, you can jailbreak your iphone to increase these options.  And as far as the recent security problems seen with jailbroken phones is concerned....this is easily circumvented if the person jailbreaking their phone knew what they were doing or bothered to look anything up in google.

Apple&#039;s system is aimed at controlling and making thing easy for the masses.  For those who know what to do, you can take control of your iphone if you deem fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The software may come through Apple but it&#8217;s not made by Apple, therefore there is not a decrease in competition&#8230;.I mean just look at all those dumb Fart Apps, all from different developers.  There are multiples of almost each type of App in the App Store, so I don&#8217;t see lack  of diversity or competition as a problem.</p>
<p>Also, you can jailbreak your iphone to increase these options.  And as far as the recent security problems seen with jailbroken phones is concerned&#8230;.this is easily circumvented if the person jailbreaking their phone knew what they were doing or bothered to look anything up in google.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s system is aimed at controlling and making thing easy for the masses.  For those who know what to do, you can take control of your iphone if you deem fit.</p>
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		<title>By: gherlein</title>
		<link>http://blog.herlein.com/2009/11/apples-iphone-evil-may-give-them-android-killing-edge-maemo-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>gherlein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t it an appropriate answer?  I&#039;ll flip the question back at you:  what if the only software you could put on your computer came through the maker of that computer?  Sure, it would block out viruses and such, but the competition and diversity of software you could choose would be seriously limited.  I very much doubt the computer software industry would be where it is today if that&#039;s the model that had been adopted.  It was openness and the ability to get software from anyone that CREATED the industry.

What&#039;s wrong with buying (or obtaining) software from any known trusted source?  After all, it&#039;s the buyers device, right?  Oh wait, it is except that you cannot do what you want with it.  

I agree, it&#039;s a great debate.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t it an appropriate answer?  I&#8217;ll flip the question back at you:  what if the only software you could put on your computer came through the maker of that computer?  Sure, it would block out viruses and such, but the competition and diversity of software you could choose would be seriously limited.  I very much doubt the computer software industry would be where it is today if that&#8217;s the model that had been adopted.  It was openness and the ability to get software from anyone that CREATED the industry.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with buying (or obtaining) software from any known trusted source?  After all, it&#8217;s the buyers device, right?  Oh wait, it is except that you cannot do what you want with it.  </p>
<p>I agree, it&#8217;s a great debate.  <img src='http://blog.herlein.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blog.herlein.com/2009/11/apples-iphone-evil-may-give-them-android-killing-edge-maemo-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im not sure that&#039;s the appropriate answer.

Seriously, is there any sort of review process Android Apps have to endure? Or are they free to create anything and dump it on you? I see thousands of virus&#039;, malware, spyware, etc, etc. What&#039;s to stop all of that?

Case in point, I did notice recently that jail-broken iPhones are getting hacked due to their open platform. 

I wont have those issues with the iPhone. I don&#039;t worry about them on my Mac, nor my Touch, nor my iPhone. 

great debate by the way. :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not sure that&#8217;s the appropriate answer.</p>
<p>Seriously, is there any sort of review process Android Apps have to endure? Or are they free to create anything and dump it on you? I see thousands of virus&#8217;, malware, spyware, etc, etc. What&#8217;s to stop all of that?</p>
<p>Case in point, I did notice recently that jail-broken iPhones are getting hacked due to their open platform. </p>
<p>I wont have those issues with the iPhone. I don&#8217;t worry about them on my Mac, nor my Touch, nor my iPhone. </p>
<p>great debate by the way. <img src='http://blog.herlein.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: gherlein</title>
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		<dc:creator>gherlein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s to stop someone from writing a rogue app for your PC or Mac?  Don&#039;t install software from an untrusted source!  *Especially* on your phone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s to stop someone from writing a rogue app for your PC or Mac?  Don&#8217;t install software from an untrusted source!  *Especially* on your phone!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blog.herlein.com/2009/11/apples-iphone-evil-may-give-them-android-killing-edge-maemo-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gherlein,

You are right. I checked and there is an App for home automation called AutoHTN. It is not nearly as refined or feature rich as my Indigo system, but it has potential. I also see that some of the car diagnostic Apps are multi-platform now. 

It looks like Apple has a real contender. I hope it makes them up their game.

I do have one question though? What&#039;s to stop someone from writing malicious apps and creating all sorts of havoc on the Android platform?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gherlein,</p>
<p>You are right. I checked and there is an App for home automation called AutoHTN. It is not nearly as refined or feature rich as my Indigo system, but it has potential. I also see that some of the car diagnostic Apps are multi-platform now. </p>
<p>It looks like Apple has a real contender. I hope it makes them up their game.</p>
<p>I do have one question though? What&#8217;s to stop someone from writing malicious apps and creating all sorts of havoc on the Android platform?</p>
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		<title>By: gherlein</title>
		<link>http://blog.herlein.com/2009/11/apples-iphone-evil-may-give-them-android-killing-edge-maemo-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>gherlein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and my other comment:  your argument that because all apps have to be signed by Apple so there can be no malware - hogwash.  That&#039;s the same argument as &quot;It&#039;s OK for the Government to listen to all our calls because that stops terrorism.&quot;  I don&#039;t buy that line of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and my other comment:  your argument that because all apps have to be signed by Apple so there can be no malware &#8211; hogwash.  That&#8217;s the same argument as &#8220;It&#8217;s OK for the Government to listen to all our calls because that stops terrorism.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t buy that line of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: gherlein</title>
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		<dc:creator>gherlein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make my point for me - you *prefer* the closed ecosystem and don&#039;t care about the loss of freedoms.  That&#039;s what will make it so hard for Android to compete.

But you are wrong about all the things you think that only the iPhone can do.  All that can be done on an an Android - and more - since the hardware is much better - give it a year and you&#039;ll be shocked how many applications are available for the Android.  My worry is that they will not all work on all Android phones due to the hardware platform fragmentation (every phone being a little different).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make my point for me &#8211; you *prefer* the closed ecosystem and don&#8217;t care about the loss of freedoms.  That&#8217;s what will make it so hard for Android to compete.</p>
<p>But you are wrong about all the things you think that only the iPhone can do.  All that can be done on an an Android &#8211; and more &#8211; since the hardware is much better &#8211; give it a year and you&#8217;ll be shocked how many applications are available for the Android.  My worry is that they will not all work on all Android phones due to the hardware platform fragmentation (every phone being a little different).</p>
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		<title>By: gherlein</title>
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		<dc:creator>gherlein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, the iPhone is NOT lightyears ahead.  It&#039;s crappy radio alone is enough to make your comment look uninformed.  

And I don&#039;t say Apple did anything illegal, just evil.  If they want to control their ecosystem to maximize their revenues, no problem.  

But you missed my point too – which is that the closed ecosystem has created an environment where lots of folks like you *want* all the side effects and *don’t care* about the loss of freedoms – and that Android will not compete with that if it’s fragmented by lots of incompatible phone models.

If you like your iPhone, fine. I just don’t want to give up my freedoms for a lesser phone, and I want to see another phone in the market compete with Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the iPhone is NOT lightyears ahead.  It&#8217;s crappy radio alone is enough to make your comment look uninformed.  </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t say Apple did anything illegal, just evil.  If they want to control their ecosystem to maximize their revenues, no problem.  </p>
<p>But you missed my point too – which is that the closed ecosystem has created an environment where lots of folks like you *want* all the side effects and *don’t care* about the loss of freedoms – and that Android will not compete with that if it’s fragmented by lots of incompatible phone models.</p>
<p>If you like your iPhone, fine. I just don’t want to give up my freedoms for a lesser phone, and I want to see another phone in the market compete with Apple.</p>
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